On the Black Agenda Report website Jemima Pierre writes:
Clearly, and methodically, “the US government is preparing for domestic insurrection.”
.... In only three years, the Obama administration and its enablers have established, legitimized, and normalized a national security state apparatus that removes any doubt that domestic policing is a prelude to a totalitarian police state. This apparatus has surpassed the Bush administration’s attempts to expand executive power by crushing the civil liberties of US citizens. And it has done so boldly, with only a few prominent critics, and without so much as a whimper from so-called leftists.
December 31, 2011 Obama signed into law the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 (NDAA). BASED ON SUSPICION ALONE the military can detain ANYONE who it considers a “terrorist” or an “accessory to terrorism.”
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN AMERICAN HISTORY INDEFINITE MILITARY DETENTION WITHOUT CHARGE OR TRIAL IS CODIFIED INTO LAW.
Pierre:
What is most dangerous about this law, according to its many critics, is its broad language about who can be considered a target. In his column describing why he is suing the Obama administration over NDAA, journalist Chris Hedges points particularly to Section 1031 defining a potential target as a person who is either a member of, or substantially supported, al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or “associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners.” This also includes “any person who has committed a belligerent act or has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces.”
The law doesn’t define what “associated forces” are, or what “engaging in hostilities” against the US means. And because the definition of a “terrorist” shifts according to political necessity, all of us – all over the world – are potential targets and eventual victims. Historically, we have seen how the US government has labeled “domestic terrorist” any persons or groups, particularly those on the left, who have dared challenge inequality and state oppression (clear examples are the American Indian Movement and the Black Power Movement). Most recently, we have seen the brutal suppression of domestic dissent through the militarized dismantling of Occupy Wall Street encampments – which brings us to the next worrisome law, HR 347.
Obama was on the Jimmy Fallon show last night I see. Trying to coax those tragically uninformed and/or with low interest in what is actually happening to and by this country, particularly those young voters who are hip but uninformed, to vote based on style NOT substance. Obama is exploiting an endorsement by CORPORATE craven media. Too many citizens are still myopically and willfully fighting Obama disillusionment or have an equally insane sensibility that Obama is too liberal and socialistic (when he is FASCISTIC) because, I grant you, the reality is just too horrible.
That smiling and amiable, seemingly self-effacing black man (driven by his own ego and his one percent puppeteers) is doing what he does best, campaigning for votes CUZ HE IS A HIP AND CHARMING CELEBRITY. His message of seduction is for you to not believe your own lying eyes and ears. Your common sense. Your brain. Your heart. To ignore or better yet, begin to groove to those sirens of cognitive dissonance bouncing around in your skull.
Obama is not just an incompetent president. He is an operative busily setting up a totalitarian government for us all. IN PLAIN SIGHT.
NDAA and the rest of the Patriot Act fathered bills of oppression???? They flush our civil protections down the toilet.
WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE AND THE BLOWBACK? Where is at least a fight for our rights? Where is our collective voice? Our consciences?
So much of the so-called progressive corporate media colludes with the destruction of our constitutional rights as it attacks the specter of a Republican administration. As if danger looms in our FUTURE. What bullshit unloaded on us all that the Democratic legacy party is wearing the proverbial white hat.
DANGER to our welfare and quality of life HAS ARRIVED!!!! We must stop ignoring it.
Kidding around late night with Jimmy Fallon gives Obama the right to trash our rights and get a shot at another term cuz he is just that cool (or “wannabe cool” more accurately)? Are we that EASY and seducible as a citizenry? DEAR GOD!
Another fresh HELL of a bill in Obamaworld is “The Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011” or the “Trespass Bill” (HR 347 and its companion Senate bill, S. 1794). Obama signed it recently, March 9, 2012.
Pierre writes:
This law, according to a Business Insider article, “potentially makes peaceable protest anywhere in the U.S. a federal felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison.” What it says, specifically, is that anyone can be charged with a federal felony for “trespassing” on property or grounds that is under Secret Service protection, even if the supposed “trespasser” is not aware that the area is under such protection. One can also be charged if he or she “impede[s] or disrupt[s] the orderly conduct of Government business or official functions.”
Say what? You can be charged with a felony for trespassing on secret service protected ground even if you don’t know you are on secret service protected ground?
Orwell meets Abbot and Costello. Who's on first?
Also, if one is “impeding” the ORDERLY CONDUCT OF GOVERNMENT BUSINESS OR OFFICIAL FUNCTIONS.
ORDERLY CONDUCT OF GOVERNMENT BUSINESS OR OFFICIAL FUNCTIONS????? WTF
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Pierre translates the surreality:
This law effectively criminalizes any form of protest. This means that any place or event can, at any time and under any circumstance, be designated a “trespass” area and, anyone protesting any event can potentially be arrested. Knowing also that under NDAA, once arrested, a person can be detained indefinitely and extradited if he or she is deemed a threat, should give us all pause.
Pierre also writes about Obama’s March 16, 2012 National Defense Resource Preparedness (EO 8248).
This order allows the executive branch – through various federal authorities such as the Secretaries of Energy, Health and Human Services, Transportation, Defense, and Commerce – to take control of all food, all energy, all health resources and all transportation resources in the service of “national defense,” even in times of declared peace. It is true that this latest executive order is an update to the one signed by Bill Clinton in 1994. But in the context of the growing number of laws that expand executive and military power to stifle dissent along with the rapidly expanding national security enterprise, we should be wary.
We are a nation of laws. More and more we are a nation of anti-citizen laws imposed by constitutional-law-discarding fascists in Democratic and Republican clothing. Most significant are the monumental and obscene selling-out Democratic Party leaders and their media enablers hypocritically trying to fog out the horror of what is happening.
Obama REAUTHORIZED the Patriot Act of 2001 which has given our fascist leadership what they consider a blank check (an illegitimate one) to do ALL THE UNCONSCIONABLE ACTIONS IT WANTS. Pierre:
... we have seen assaults on our dignity, our human rights and ability to protest. These assaults now come from multiple fronts and contain diverse tactics. And they affect us all. We see examples in the local and federal militarized response to the Occupy Wall Street movements, the deployment of drones domestically by city governments, universities, private contractors, and local police (see domestic drone authorization map here), and we see how the Obama administration has waged an all out war against whistleblowers by using the archaic World War I era Espionage Act, prosecuting more people than all other presidents combined.
More importantly, there is what the Washington Post last year called the “National Security Enterprise” that depends on “854,000 civil servants, military personnel and private contractors with top-security clearances,” and whose major work is domestic surveillance to curtail dissent. The unprecedented $1.5 billion, almost 1 million square feet National Security Agency data center (or “Spy Center”) that is being built in Utah, is to work both as a bottomless database for all information on all Americans, and as a remote interrogation center.
The US government is breaking moral law all over the globe with its military MISADVENTURES. It bullshits about humanitarian intent but look at who ends up governing in said destabilized countries (destabilized with lotsa help from you know who) and which oppressive governments the US is perfectly content to enable. A cabal of international bullies.
We are at the mercy of a government that is committing war crimes now at warp speed.
We are reduced to looking outward at the world and thinking, “Wow, safer to be within U.S. borders than without.” Cold and temporary comfort. If you happen to live in the Middle East or Africa, especially now, you or your nearest and dearest can get incinerated or maimed in a New York second just being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Tidily zapped to red mist by some callow kid at a joy stick in Nevada. Labelled insurgent if your death makes it to any US media, though that is unlikely. Labelled a “bug splat” by whoever is behind the drone killing console screen. Pierre:
With all of this, it is clear that, even though it seems to only be concerned with international wars and other misadventures, the US government is preparing for domestic insurrection. And it has done so by unleashing the structures of totalitarianism, as it seeks to regulate our actions through mass surveillance, fear, and threats of repression. (For how else can we understand the recent purchase by the Department of Homeland Security of nearly 500 million rounds of ultra-deadly hollow-point bullets and 40 caliber ammo, as well as a large number of semi-portable steel checkpoint guardhouses, complete with high-impact bulletproof glass windows and doors?)
People are actually saying on these faux-progressive MSNBC shows that once Obama is safely in place for a second term, he will finally feel safe enough to be the softer, more liberal, more empathetic and responsive to citizen suffering, REAL Obama.
Really?
There’s an East River bridge in New York I’d like to sell them.
By the way, Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein just released a video and statement declaring she will pardon Bradley Manning when elected.
LISTENING BARACK? Of course you are. Well, not you exactly. Creepily, your surveillance apparati is listening.
Dr. Stein is pitting her conscience against the unconscionable anti-American and anti-global-citizens activities of the Obama administration and our mass-murderous government.
Who’s back should we have? Obama’s or Stein’s? I choose Stein’s. The more of us who take that stance the safer Stein and all of us daring to protest will be.
Obama being cute on Jimmy Fallon? What Obama is doing behind all the cronied celeb media propaganda is not cute. It is destroying democracy. It must be stopped.
Are we waiting for corporate media to give us permission to take this all seriously? That ain't gonna happen. The clock is ticking. The slippery slide to fascism is pretty much complete.
Our nation must be saved. We can do it if enough of us face down REALITY, a reality evident right out there in the open. A reality that profoundly and dizzyingly repels, granted. A reality that awaits our exercising our responsibility as citizens. Responsibility a/k/a the “ability to respond.”
By the way, the audacity was never of hope. It was the audacity of evil.
[cross-posted on correntewire and sacramento for democracy]
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I think the whole system is now corrupt and trying to choose the lesser of two evils does not mean anything anymore Libby.
yes, dissent is now criminal. That should give each and every single one of us pause before screaming whether they are on the red team of blue.
Take your pick. Corruption corrupts completely.
And bloggers are next in line for the sweep upcoming by that knock at 3 am.
yes, dissent is now criminal. That should give each and every single one of us pause before screaming whether they are on the red team of blue.
Take your pick. Corruption corrupts completely.
And bloggers are next in line for the sweep upcoming by that knock at 3 am.
The lesser and least of evils has always been our choice... law is an artificial construct of power... insurrection has always been the excuse for kicking diown doors and hauling people off for no particular reason other than their attempts to organize opposition... with any luck the judiciary will strike these "laws" down as unconstitutional, not that that will do any good... enforcement has rarely allowed the spirit of the law to prevent intervention and detention.
This left wing ideology is no different than that from the right. It's appeal is fear and apocalyptic--always the fascist out to get you, the rigid rejection of political reality, the end of all that is holy. If it's not Obama who has disillusioned you it's the next guy or gal. Nobody is going to do it your way and compromise is out of the question. How do you think the fascists actually win? The 60's are over. Call me all the names you want. I believe in moderation because at least it keeps the fringe fanatics at bay.
thanks, Mark, once again for your respect and good will!!! much appreciated.
Mission, well put. And yes, I am praying more and more of the citizenry begins to express dissent, so that those on the vanguard of courageous dissent now are not left to twist in the wind at the mercy of the horrifying repealing of our BASIC amendment rights with these anti-constitutional and inhumane and insanely arbitrary to the whim of the governmental leaders laws.
I just heard a wonderful financial analyst and professor on the NewsHour talking about Dodd Frank. Her name is Lynn Stout. Ms. Stout said that what Dodd Frank did, instead of spelling out regulatory law for Wall Street corporations, instead gave the government agencies the power to write and determine regulations. Which of course leaves the agencies susceptible to incredible corporate lobbying and with covert cover to give advantage to their cronies. Hello???? Have we learned nothing from the financial mess? Apparently not.
Ms. Stout also said that Wall Street has cannibalized its customer base out of is grotesque short term addictive greed.
best, libby
I just heard a wonderful financial analyst and professor on the NewsHour talking about Dodd Frank. Her name is Lynn Stout. Ms. Stout said that what Dodd Frank did, instead of spelling out regulatory law for Wall Street corporations, instead gave the government agencies the power to write and determine regulations. Which of course leaves the agencies susceptible to incredible corporate lobbying and with covert cover to give advantage to their cronies. Hello???? Have we learned nothing from the financial mess? Apparently not.
Ms. Stout also said that Wall Street has cannibalized its customer base out of is grotesque short term addictive greed.
best, libby
I read today that the labor department is preparing to invoke child labor laws for farm children, meaning the children of the farmer, making it illegal for them to work and earn money on the family farm. It's got to stop somewhere. I wonder what the soldiers are going to do when they're told to fire on their neighbors. Do you know what they're trying to prove with all of this?
jmac, yes police state behavior happens even in a constitutional republic, ignoring laws if the leaders recklessly assert illegitimate power over the military and police. but you know when Bloomberg during the Republican Convention in NYC long ago decided to illegally discourage protesters by having some ambushed while in a permit-authorized march or gathering carted off to jail in plastic zipcuffs justice came later. since then, though with little media attention, countless wronged protesters have received compensation from the courts for the illegal arrests and incarcerations, draining the NYC budget, of course. Apparently it was worth it to Bloomberg to try to freak out protesters to back off from mass protesting with such intimidation for that moment. But the wheels of justice, sometimes grind forward slowly, but with law they can grind forward ... no matter how slowly.
Take away the rule of law like Obama et al. are doing right now, so dramatically and unbelievably, and the wronged have no recourse .... we don't have a citizen welfare constitution-protecting republic, we have FASCISM. WE HAVE TOTALITARIANISM.
Thanks for commenting, jmac! appreciate it once again. best, libby
Take away the rule of law like Obama et al. are doing right now, so dramatically and unbelievably, and the wronged have no recourse .... we don't have a citizen welfare constitution-protecting republic, we have FASCISM. WE HAVE TOTALITARIANISM.
Thanks for commenting, jmac! appreciate it once again. best, libby
Ben, for real? Do you really see objecting to the loss of due process and arbitrary indefinite detention on ANYONE as a "fringe" sensibility?
Do it MY way? We are not talking about how I want my hamburger dressed at Burger King. We are talking about the Bill of Rights being gutted, man!!! You call that fanatical, not wanting how many centuries of habeas corpus not to be tossed out by arrogant measures of fascism by a supposed to be constitution-respecting government????? Wow.
Moderation, huh? Sounds a lot like the attitude of the good Germans who were willing to coexist politely with the Holocaust. Talk about mis-labelling pre-emptive appeasement and surrender for moderation. Your framing it as some kind of mature and sophisticated pragmatism is chilling. IMHO!!!!
Do it MY way? We are not talking about how I want my hamburger dressed at Burger King. We are talking about the Bill of Rights being gutted, man!!! You call that fanatical, not wanting how many centuries of habeas corpus not to be tossed out by arrogant measures of fascism by a supposed to be constitution-respecting government????? Wow.
Moderation, huh? Sounds a lot like the attitude of the good Germans who were willing to coexist politely with the Holocaust. Talk about mis-labelling pre-emptive appeasement and surrender for moderation. Your framing it as some kind of mature and sophisticated pragmatism is chilling. IMHO!!!!
phyllis, I have not heard about the child labor deal with farms. would be curious to hear more about it.
I remember hearing Ethan McCord who was the heroic soldier who was part of the Wikileaks Collateral Murder apache crew unit speak in NYC. He had been on the ground when the travesty happened and actually tried to save the lives of the children of the good Samaritan our soldiers shot and killed AFTER our troops had just shot with videogame indifference (recorded dialogue to prove it) the initial innocent targets. The two children had also been shot. They were in the front seat of a truck.
Ethan talked about the profound desensitization training the troops had to go through to be effective killing machines. He turned to the NYC audience and said bluntly, "Don't doubt that we are trained to kill you, too, if it comes to that!" I got a chill.
As the economy unravels, wonder if the only jobs will be for homeland security and military. you get paid only if you are willing to intimidate, lock up and/or kill anyone anywhere, no questions asked. Just follow orders!
Thanks for commenting.
Best, libby
I remember hearing Ethan McCord who was the heroic soldier who was part of the Wikileaks Collateral Murder apache crew unit speak in NYC. He had been on the ground when the travesty happened and actually tried to save the lives of the children of the good Samaritan our soldiers shot and killed AFTER our troops had just shot with videogame indifference (recorded dialogue to prove it) the initial innocent targets. The two children had also been shot. They were in the front seat of a truck.
Ethan talked about the profound desensitization training the troops had to go through to be effective killing machines. He turned to the NYC audience and said bluntly, "Don't doubt that we are trained to kill you, too, if it comes to that!" I got a chill.
As the economy unravels, wonder if the only jobs will be for homeland security and military. you get paid only if you are willing to intimidate, lock up and/or kill anyone anywhere, no questions asked. Just follow orders!
Thanks for commenting.
Best, libby
I don't the exact whys or what's or hows of this but I know that I saw firsthand that the police have little to no accountability.So many lawyers shake their heads at how hard it has become to be a civil rights lawyer. Most have closed shop. It's nearly impossible to win now, and the civil rights crusader is a thing of the past due to the spate of terrible higher court decisions. So much is going wrong with this country and your outrage is the right response. Sadly, most just won't get it until they GET IT.
I love your title - Webster Tarpley's unauthorized biography suggests he likes the other kind of S&M, as well. Why does it stir my blood to read that the US government is preparing for domestic insurrection. Maybe things aren't as bleak as I thought.
You make a good point, like Michael Parenti does in the face of imperialism. Obama is far from incompetent. He knows exactly what he's doing.
The lack of outrage over the repeal of the Bill of Rights might relate to the fact that American high schools no longer teach American history. I wonder how many voters actually know what the Constitution us.
You make a good point, like Michael Parenti does in the face of imperialism. Obama is far from incompetent. He knows exactly what he's doing.
The lack of outrage over the repeal of the Bill of Rights might relate to the fact that American high schools no longer teach American history. I wonder how many voters actually know what the Constitution us.
Face of Imperialism should have been capitalized - it's Parenti's new book.
toritto, I figure we gotta talk about this while we still can. Otherwise it is up eventually for all of us. I know they are trying to unplug us from communicating the truth, also finding it. We are not talking about conspiracy theories. As Sy Hersch says, "No matter how bad you think it is, it is so much worse!" thanks for the visit once again! best, libby
fernsy, thanks for comment! Especially:
"Sadly, most just won't get it until they GET IT."
I just don't get it. I grew up with a lot of illusions about justice and the human capacity for empathy. Even when I heard about the Milgram experiments I was grateful 4 out of 10 people said no to orders to use painful levels of electricity to shock innocent strangers because someone in a white jacket was telling them to.
Now it seems like less than 4 out of 10 is willing to step up to the plate and exercise empathy and responsibility and challenge the appeasers and surrenderers who seem to be yawning as our rights finish circling the bowl!!!! I have a new coinage, American "settlers". The exact opposite of our feisty pioneer ancestors!!! American "doormat-ism"!
take care! best, libby
"Sadly, most just won't get it until they GET IT."
I just don't get it. I grew up with a lot of illusions about justice and the human capacity for empathy. Even when I heard about the Milgram experiments I was grateful 4 out of 10 people said no to orders to use painful levels of electricity to shock innocent strangers because someone in a white jacket was telling them to.
Now it seems like less than 4 out of 10 is willing to step up to the plate and exercise empathy and responsibility and challenge the appeasers and surrenderers who seem to be yawning as our rights finish circling the bowl!!!! I have a new coinage, American "settlers". The exact opposite of our feisty pioneer ancestors!!! American "doormat-ism"!
take care! best, libby
Stuart, thanks for comment. Gonna follow up on Webster Tarpley. Thanks once again for the drift!!! Insurrection, the visualization of it, seems far off from the stunning complacency of so many led by the NEO-libs who could apparently give a G*d-d*mn about their fellow human beings. At least the rat bastards of the universe know they deserve one and of course are covering their guilty bases.
Obama is so slick the way he uses women, like Hillary, Janet N., Samantha P., Carol Browner when she was around, S. Rice, to do his most sub-basement evil. Women as front persons, the same way Obama as a black man is a slick front man for the elite. Women cronies willing to go all out crony and be codependent for the team.
I have been a fan of Parenti. Thanks for another source. Yeah, Charter schools so busy doing product indoctrination and profit making, why would they promote serious American history. I'll bet passionate teachers won't begin to get hired.
I remember Kucinich yanking out a tiny copy of the Constitution from his suit jacket pocket during a debate. Kucinich, deemed eccentric. Gotta love those pragmatic "moderates" and their craven media leaders! NOT.
best, libby
Obama is so slick the way he uses women, like Hillary, Janet N., Samantha P., Carol Browner when she was around, S. Rice, to do his most sub-basement evil. Women as front persons, the same way Obama as a black man is a slick front man for the elite. Women cronies willing to go all out crony and be codependent for the team.
I have been a fan of Parenti. Thanks for another source. Yeah, Charter schools so busy doing product indoctrination and profit making, why would they promote serious American history. I'll bet passionate teachers won't begin to get hired.
I remember Kucinich yanking out a tiny copy of the Constitution from his suit jacket pocket during a debate. Kucinich, deemed eccentric. Gotta love those pragmatic "moderates" and their craven media leaders! NOT.
best, libby
Satirists Ilf and Petroff successfully published outrageous send-ups of the Stalinist bureaucracy in the Soviet Union, providing great emotional nourishment to the populace during the darkest days of Soviet oppression. This writing team succeeded by avoiding direct political criticism and keeping the focus on the most immediate problems of everyday life. They were so clever and amusing that the stodgy thought police never caught on, which added to the duo's subversive popularity. One of their most famous stories is The Twelve Chairs, which Mel Brooks made into a hilarious movie in the early '70s. Long way to say, this is my kind of dissent. It's what I try to do in my own modest way. If done right it can have more effect on rallying peoples spirits than bluster and bombast.
Matt, am I delivering bluster and bombast in your eyes?
Clearly, and methodically, “the US government is preparing for domestic insurrection.”
Of course, the big money foresees dire economic consequences ahead that will lead to hunger and homelessness, and it must protect itself. Have you noticed how many laws are being put in the books in anticipation of dissent and how quickly they are being passed even though they are all unconstitutional? Why did the Congress pass unconstitutional laws?
I would like to point out that Obama (himself) really has nothing to do with any of it. Any other president would have done the same. Every president since FDR has some specific tasks to fulfill, and preparing for domestic insurrection is one of Obama's. Thank you, Libby, for answering a very difficult question: "Why is Obama doubling on what George W Bush started?" Excellent and relevant piece. R
Of course, the big money foresees dire economic consequences ahead that will lead to hunger and homelessness, and it must protect itself. Have you noticed how many laws are being put in the books in anticipation of dissent and how quickly they are being passed even though they are all unconstitutional? Why did the Congress pass unconstitutional laws?
I would like to point out that Obama (himself) really has nothing to do with any of it. Any other president would have done the same. Every president since FDR has some specific tasks to fulfill, and preparing for domestic insurrection is one of Obama's. Thank you, Libby, for answering a very difficult question: "Why is Obama doubling on what George W Bush started?" Excellent and relevant piece. R
Thoth, thanks for comment and validation. Appreciated.
But I do take issue with you on one point, my friend. All of us are personally responsible INCLUDING OBAMA AND ESPECIALLY OBAMA for what is happening to this country. I am stunned that even people like you who have the administration's number so well are excusing the new-mode teflony prez for doing what he is forced to do.
Anyone would do it? Jill Stein wouldn't do it! But who are the American "settlers" standing by, Obama!!! Let's identify totally with our oppressors????? Learned helplessness? They don't even have to assert violence, the police state, even though they are preparing to anyway. People will flock to vote for Obama in fear of those awful Republicans getting power. The Repubs would be hard pressed to do matching levels of damage as Obama! I'm sure they would give it the old college try, but they wouldn't pretend to promise to "tweak" college loan sharking to get votes before throwing the students of American under the bus. Obama's favorite place for people once he's had his way with them.
Obama is the president. Obama has power. It is one of the three branches of the government. Not only has he power, but his branch is extending itself way beyond its original intended scope!
best, libby
But I do take issue with you on one point, my friend. All of us are personally responsible INCLUDING OBAMA AND ESPECIALLY OBAMA for what is happening to this country. I am stunned that even people like you who have the administration's number so well are excusing the new-mode teflony prez for doing what he is forced to do.
Anyone would do it? Jill Stein wouldn't do it! But who are the American "settlers" standing by, Obama!!! Let's identify totally with our oppressors????? Learned helplessness? They don't even have to assert violence, the police state, even though they are preparing to anyway. People will flock to vote for Obama in fear of those awful Republicans getting power. The Repubs would be hard pressed to do matching levels of damage as Obama! I'm sure they would give it the old college try, but they wouldn't pretend to promise to "tweak" college loan sharking to get votes before throwing the students of American under the bus. Obama's favorite place for people once he's had his way with them.
Obama is the president. Obama has power. It is one of the three branches of the government. Not only has he power, but his branch is extending itself way beyond its original intended scope!
best, libby
Once again I find that however little time I have, I need to make time to read your posts. We are coming at the same conclusions from opposite ends of the political spectrum, but from exactly the same spot on the Spirit, Free Will, Individual and Human Rights issues. It may sound "off-putting", but give a listen to Rush Limbaugh and Neil Bortz-- Two people who, no matter what else you think of them, have denounced Obama and, believe it or not, his plutocrat buddies as dangerous traitors. And are probably the "Terrorists" that Obama and company are gearing up to arrest (or kill)
What is interesting is the "resonance " this strikes in the "Heartland" and in the military. It is the difference between those who have and respect "Honor" and "Free Will" and "Justice" and those who don't.
I live within 200 yards of the fence of the largest air force base in the world ( Wright Patterson) and, as you know, am having my differences with the civil authorities here in Fairborn over the treatment of my neighbor, Mike.
The thing that is reassuring here, is that the police are staying out of it. Mike has a Bench Warrant out, that the Chief of Police is very aware of, and has decided he wants no part of. At this point, The court wishes it had never started, and is hoping Mike will just go way, to be picked up when things cool down.
All this to say, that The Chief has a town full of cranky Airmen who are armed, and no doubt that, in the event of any major upheaval, the town will be under Martial Law before he knows about it.
Which isn't a bad thing-- The military and ex-military around here are pretty much "Oath Keepers"- they know illegal orders, and the Nuremberg Laws quite well. I know that Obama and his cronies are are "Commanders" in Chief- but it will be "interesting" to see, when push comes to shove, whether , like the Pope, he actually has or has not the military strength, or the obedience, to "take the Red States"- which is what it may come down to.
One of the joys of a "small town" is being able to know and motivate your neighbors.
Thank you for writing and keeping me informed while I'm busy-
I've written the next installment of , at least "First Draft" Chautauqua that follows "Nanny Dearest" and posted it at
http://open.salon.com/blog/philbert_desanex/2012/04/25/reason_kindness_correction
it is a pondering of ways of "correcting" those who would govern us-- I would appreciate your input
Funny how "liberal" (Free) minds run to some of the same thoughts from either end of "politics".
What is interesting is the "resonance " this strikes in the "Heartland" and in the military. It is the difference between those who have and respect "Honor" and "Free Will" and "Justice" and those who don't.
I live within 200 yards of the fence of the largest air force base in the world ( Wright Patterson) and, as you know, am having my differences with the civil authorities here in Fairborn over the treatment of my neighbor, Mike.
The thing that is reassuring here, is that the police are staying out of it. Mike has a Bench Warrant out, that the Chief of Police is very aware of, and has decided he wants no part of. At this point, The court wishes it had never started, and is hoping Mike will just go way, to be picked up when things cool down.
All this to say, that The Chief has a town full of cranky Airmen who are armed, and no doubt that, in the event of any major upheaval, the town will be under Martial Law before he knows about it.
Which isn't a bad thing-- The military and ex-military around here are pretty much "Oath Keepers"- they know illegal orders, and the Nuremberg Laws quite well. I know that Obama and his cronies are are "Commanders" in Chief- but it will be "interesting" to see, when push comes to shove, whether , like the Pope, he actually has or has not the military strength, or the obedience, to "take the Red States"- which is what it may come down to.
One of the joys of a "small town" is being able to know and motivate your neighbors.
Thank you for writing and keeping me informed while I'm busy-
I've written the next installment of , at least "First Draft" Chautauqua that follows "Nanny Dearest" and posted it at
http://open.salon.com/blog/philbert_desanex/2012/04/25/reason_kindness_correction
it is a pondering of ways of "correcting" those who would govern us-- I would appreciate your input
Funny how "liberal" (Free) minds run to some of the same thoughts from either end of "politics".
P.S. see
http://open.salon.com/blog/doug_socks/2012/04/25/the_gun_paradox
for a typical "Red State " view
http://open.salon.com/blog/doug_socks/2012/04/25/the_gun_paradox
for a typical "Red State " view
Keep it up. I know that we will never hear from you again after President Romney takes the oath of office.
Stein? What do we need Stein for? Stein didn't catch Osama Bin Laden or keep this country from going in the tank for the past three years.
This is why the left is non existent and irrelevant: The left is tragically priority challenged.
Stein? What do we need Stein for? Stein didn't catch Osama Bin Laden or keep this country from going in the tank for the past three years.
This is why the left is non existent and irrelevant: The left is tragically priority challenged.
People will "care" when it's too late. Every President is the same now just as every Roman emporer was the same. Repealing of rights, protecting the greedy, worshiping the military complex - anyone elected is bound by these parameters because we the people are no better.
This is insane.
The idea that Obama is no different than Bush is moronic. And dangerous.
The United States has never been freer than it is today. It shows a complete disregard for American history. Was the so called 'golden age' of freedom when the Sedition Act of 1918 was in effect? Or when Hoover ran the FBI? Or the McCarthy period. Or the Nixon White House?
Police states aren't the product of sneaking in a few laws when no one is looking. It's done right in the open, with popular support.
The idea that Obama is no different than Bush is moronic. And dangerous.
The United States has never been freer than it is today. It shows a complete disregard for American history. Was the so called 'golden age' of freedom when the Sedition Act of 1918 was in effect? Or when Hoover ran the FBI? Or the McCarthy period. Or the Nixon White House?
Police states aren't the product of sneaking in a few laws when no one is looking. It's done right in the open, with popular support.
It's a real hoot that someone could have a straight face and say: "The United States has never been freer than it is today. "
while a Conservative site claims:
"Obama has shown particular disdain for and has challenged with legislation the First, Second, Tenth and Fourteenth Amendments."
http://www.saveyourrights.com/obama/obama-is-a-clear-and-present-danger-to-our-constitutional-rights/
Ever hear the term cognitive dissonance, nick?
while a Conservative site claims:
"Obama has shown particular disdain for and has challenged with legislation the First, Second, Tenth and Fourteenth Amendments."
http://www.saveyourrights.com/obama/obama-is-a-clear-and-present-danger-to-our-constitutional-rights/
Ever hear the term cognitive dissonance, nick?
Appears you've touched a nerve libby, well done!
Cracks they can't plaster over so easily, even if it is their job*, or perceive it as such, to do so.
Saludos ~
Cracks they can't plaster over so easily, even if it is their job*, or perceive it as such, to do so.
Saludos ~
how exciting to be at the top of the top-rated! only time it has happened! :)
Rudy, thanks for responding. I need to get out there and start contributing comments to other blogs like yours. Been focused on a few things lately, IRL and then my last 2 blogs. I hear you on time.
When I came across Pierre's article earlier today about the horrifying anti-dissent legislation I needed to pass the info along as well as express my own outrage.
I love the idea that we are coming from opposite ends of the political spectrum, but "from exactly the same spot on the Spirit, Free Will, Individual and Human Rights issues."
You know to be honest I think Obama hates ex-hippie liberals like me a helluva lot more than he does the Rush Limbaughs and the red staters. But I hear what you are saying, .... still .... Rush ... I can't abide him, at least what I have heard about and from him He has had avid fans among some of my secondary family which I found worrisome. (Howard Stern makes me crazy, too. Imus was disturbing. A political palette of shock jocks. And Morning Joe .... tv blowhard .... blecccccchhhhhh.)
How interesting your geographic location and its politics and the particular plight of your neighbor, Mike. I hope that turns out okay for him.
I feel empathy for those in the military who are being jerked around so, in terms of deployments and benefits and psychological and physical woundings.
You write:
"Which isn't a bad thing-- The military and ex-military around here are pretty much "Oath Keepers"- they know illegal orders, and the Nuremberg Laws quite well."
Really???? Are there any anti-war activists in your area. Any of those coffee houses?
I have heard there is a powerful group-think and military whistleblowers are not looked on kindly by fellow troops. The whole loyalty and secrecy dynamic.
Ethan McCord, anti-war activist, spoke about how his life was threatened multiple times when he began speaking out as a soldier against war.
I liked hearing this:
"One of the joys of a "small town" is being able to know and motivate your neighbors."
Good for you!!!
Funny how "liberal" (Free) minds run to some of the same thoughts from either end of "politics".
Yes, I have a libertarian friend at work and our mutual disrespect for Obama has helped us have very interesting discussions. I can talk to him more honestly and fully than other coworkers who are so obsessed with the Dem-Republican horserace that speaking against Obama is anti-cronyism. Codependent enabling I call such cronyism!
Will do my best to check out your links!!!
Thanks for commenting! best, libby
When I came across Pierre's article earlier today about the horrifying anti-dissent legislation I needed to pass the info along as well as express my own outrage.
I love the idea that we are coming from opposite ends of the political spectrum, but "from exactly the same spot on the Spirit, Free Will, Individual and Human Rights issues."
You know to be honest I think Obama hates ex-hippie liberals like me a helluva lot more than he does the Rush Limbaughs and the red staters. But I hear what you are saying, .... still .... Rush ... I can't abide him, at least what I have heard about and from him He has had avid fans among some of my secondary family which I found worrisome. (Howard Stern makes me crazy, too. Imus was disturbing. A political palette of shock jocks. And Morning Joe .... tv blowhard .... blecccccchhhhhh.)
How interesting your geographic location and its politics and the particular plight of your neighbor, Mike. I hope that turns out okay for him.
I feel empathy for those in the military who are being jerked around so, in terms of deployments and benefits and psychological and physical woundings.
You write:
"Which isn't a bad thing-- The military and ex-military around here are pretty much "Oath Keepers"- they know illegal orders, and the Nuremberg Laws quite well."
Really???? Are there any anti-war activists in your area. Any of those coffee houses?
I have heard there is a powerful group-think and military whistleblowers are not looked on kindly by fellow troops. The whole loyalty and secrecy dynamic.
Ethan McCord, anti-war activist, spoke about how his life was threatened multiple times when he began speaking out as a soldier against war.
I liked hearing this:
"One of the joys of a "small town" is being able to know and motivate your neighbors."
Good for you!!!
Funny how "liberal" (Free) minds run to some of the same thoughts from either end of "politics".
Yes, I have a libertarian friend at work and our mutual disrespect for Obama has helped us have very interesting discussions. I can talk to him more honestly and fully than other coworkers who are so obsessed with the Dem-Republican horserace that speaking against Obama is anti-cronyism. Codependent enabling I call such cronyism!
Will do my best to check out your links!!!
Thanks for commenting! best, libby
zuma, the sleaziness of the Repubs does not exonerate Obama, the American Judas.
You call out the lefties as priority challenged? How dare you!!!
Someone, L. Davidson I think, wrote an article about the situational ethics (faux-ethics) of those apologists for Obama. When does morality begin to mean something to the too cool for school MSNBC watching focusers on the lesser evilism and the horserace in which the 99% really don't have a horse in the race.
Obama bullshit promises about tweaking policy to help the people like with healthcare or student loans or taxing the rich (too little too late and most of it Obama safely knows won't get by Congress, anyway so his rich cronies are safe with him) more than the Republicans would. HAH!! I wonder if there will be anything left destructive for the Repubs to do by the time Obama gets to November? He'll have most of the constitution shredded by then.
Are you bragging about how bin Laden was "taken out" as American vigilantes want to call it. Yeah, throw out international and criminal law. Not much truthfulness about the Osama "take out" anyway, a lot of lying bullshit that leaked out later, but for Obama to take his macho bow for that sickened me. The same way Hillary celebrated Gaddafi getting sodomized with a knife. Who are these amoral monsters running our government?
Ends don't justify the means. I have respect for the Geneva conventions and international law. Don't you?
And all this humanitarian intention bullshit about corporate warring. We are so not on the side of the angels in our genocidal imperialism.
Priority challenged? Don't make me laugh.
Jill Stein could clean Obama's and Romney's clock in a debate. And she has a jobs program already designed, a Green New Deal!!!
The corporate media won't give her attention because she talks morality and she talks helping the people. She is not a hypocrit and not lobbied and cronied up. The Green Party has a platform of principles for people, planet and peace. Imagine that in Post-Morality America.
But ... there you are. Ready to throw a real citizen candidate under the bus. All in the name of lesser evilism. Obama saved this country, bullshit.
During the financial crash when Obama was still a candidate his UBS BFF was giving him the inside line and he was so on board bailing out those bastards. Obama doesn't give a serious sh*t about poverty in this country. He doesn't even mention below the middle class, though he really doesn't care about it either.
Obama says one thing and does another, and his apologists are like the energizer bunny, they can't stop the loyalty. what is it, can't accept you got punked in his election? We had lousy choices.
But Oprah likes him and he has a photogenic smile. Keep on playing Lucy and the football with Obama and his hope promise bullshit.
libby
You call out the lefties as priority challenged? How dare you!!!
Someone, L. Davidson I think, wrote an article about the situational ethics (faux-ethics) of those apologists for Obama. When does morality begin to mean something to the too cool for school MSNBC watching focusers on the lesser evilism and the horserace in which the 99% really don't have a horse in the race.
Obama bullshit promises about tweaking policy to help the people like with healthcare or student loans or taxing the rich (too little too late and most of it Obama safely knows won't get by Congress, anyway so his rich cronies are safe with him) more than the Republicans would. HAH!! I wonder if there will be anything left destructive for the Repubs to do by the time Obama gets to November? He'll have most of the constitution shredded by then.
Are you bragging about how bin Laden was "taken out" as American vigilantes want to call it. Yeah, throw out international and criminal law. Not much truthfulness about the Osama "take out" anyway, a lot of lying bullshit that leaked out later, but for Obama to take his macho bow for that sickened me. The same way Hillary celebrated Gaddafi getting sodomized with a knife. Who are these amoral monsters running our government?
Ends don't justify the means. I have respect for the Geneva conventions and international law. Don't you?
And all this humanitarian intention bullshit about corporate warring. We are so not on the side of the angels in our genocidal imperialism.
Priority challenged? Don't make me laugh.
Jill Stein could clean Obama's and Romney's clock in a debate. And she has a jobs program already designed, a Green New Deal!!!
The corporate media won't give her attention because she talks morality and she talks helping the people. She is not a hypocrit and not lobbied and cronied up. The Green Party has a platform of principles for people, planet and peace. Imagine that in Post-Morality America.
But ... there you are. Ready to throw a real citizen candidate under the bus. All in the name of lesser evilism. Obama saved this country, bullshit.
During the financial crash when Obama was still a candidate his UBS BFF was giving him the inside line and he was so on board bailing out those bastards. Obama doesn't give a serious sh*t about poverty in this country. He doesn't even mention below the middle class, though he really doesn't care about it either.
Obama says one thing and does another, and his apologists are like the energizer bunny, they can't stop the loyalty. what is it, can't accept you got punked in his election? We had lousy choices.
But Oprah likes him and he has a photogenic smile. Keep on playing Lucy and the football with Obama and his hope promise bullshit.
libby
Thanks, Harry. I just don't get it. The horrifying complacency. I remember reading that when JFK entered the matrix what really helped him was RFK whom he almost didn't appoint as AG but he had his back and broke the "group-think" that I am sure Obama and Bush Jr. walked into. I expected Bush to succumb to it, but Obama has really gone the distance for the ruling elites.
The Green Party structure could really shake up the election but citizens are just not motivated to challenge the Dem Party. I can't believe how obtuse they are being. I know that doesn't endear me to people but it is how I feel. I wonder what they are thinking and feeling. Where is the empathy for what the citizenry is struggling with and the empathy for those being murdered by the US/NATO killing machine across the globe. And these nightmare acts trashing our long-time bill of rights. WTF??????? What do they think Obama is not responsible for any of it or it is not important? Geeeeez Louise!!!
best, libby
The Green Party structure could really shake up the election but citizens are just not motivated to challenge the Dem Party. I can't believe how obtuse they are being. I know that doesn't endear me to people but it is how I feel. I wonder what they are thinking and feeling. Where is the empathy for what the citizenry is struggling with and the empathy for those being murdered by the US/NATO killing machine across the globe. And these nightmare acts trashing our long-time bill of rights. WTF??????? What do they think Obama is not responsible for any of it or it is not important? Geeeeez Louise!!!
best, libby
Nick,
NO!!! THE IDEA THAT OBAMA IS DIFFERENT FROM BUSH IS WHAT IS INSANE!!!
What does this mean?
"Police states aren't the product of sneaking in a few laws when no one is looking. It's done right in the open, with popular support."
I am sorry but I don't get what you are getting at with this.
Are you minimizing the laws I mention above that are anti-constitutional??? Are those the "few laws" .. the ones that trash due process and make us vulnerable to arrest at the arbitrary whim (and we know how politically-oriented Obama's whims are) of the President????
libby
NO!!! THE IDEA THAT OBAMA IS DIFFERENT FROM BUSH IS WHAT IS INSANE!!!
What does this mean?
"Police states aren't the product of sneaking in a few laws when no one is looking. It's done right in the open, with popular support."
I am sorry but I don't get what you are getting at with this.
Are you minimizing the laws I mention above that are anti-constitutional??? Are those the "few laws" .. the ones that trash due process and make us vulnerable to arrest at the arbitrary whim (and we know how politically-oriented Obama's whims are) of the President????
libby
Hey, Mark!!! Welcome back!!! :) Yeah, perpetual cognitive dissonance is indeed the state of the nation. Sadly, people seem to be getting acclimated to it.
Maybe time for conservatives and real liberals to bond over morality and anti-constitutional onslaught since Obamacrats have heads in the sand or elsewhere, I am afraid.
II, thanks for the visit! so nice to see you again! was impressed this blog was received as well as it was here at os!!! Despite or rather including its detractors. :) best, libby
Maybe time for conservatives and real liberals to bond over morality and anti-constitutional onslaught since Obamacrats have heads in the sand or elsewhere, I am afraid.
II, thanks for the visit! so nice to see you again! was impressed this blog was received as well as it was here at os!!! Despite or rather including its detractors. :) best, libby
Libby, so many of Your blogs are marvelously incredible, beyond words, but the comments which follow subsequently could EASILY be compiled an a publishable, and incredibly well-needed wake up call in and of themselves.
Furthermore, whether You notice it or not (I think You do), more and more diverse kinds of individuals are flocking here, and that simply confirms that You are supplying info that others wish to hear and are not getting elsewhere.
Congrats on the EP - I was gonna' send You a middle of the night message rejoicing over the fact of Your blog at the top of the list.
Next stop is EP land with many more to follow, I DO, fervently, believe.
Can I rate this, again, or at least rate Your comments?
Furthermore, whether You notice it or not (I think You do), more and more diverse kinds of individuals are flocking here, and that simply confirms that You are supplying info that others wish to hear and are not getting elsewhere.
Congrats on the EP - I was gonna' send You a middle of the night message rejoicing over the fact of Your blog at the top of the list.
Next stop is EP land with many more to follow, I DO, fervently, believe.
Can I rate this, again, or at least rate Your comments?
Awwww, Mark!! Thanks so much. You "bookended this blog for me."
No EP ... but I did get a reddit for Stein/pot article thru correntewire. that felt good. and making the top of the heap for a bit on the toprated was a rush.
Yes, love the eclectic collection of os folks this one got! (I don't think I write in line for EP editor but so it goes. :) )
You take care and to be continued! best, libby
No EP ... but I did get a reddit for Stein/pot article thru correntewire. that felt good. and making the top of the heap for a bit on the toprated was a rush.
Yes, love the eclectic collection of os folks this one got! (I don't think I write in line for EP editor but so it goes. :) )
You take care and to be continued! best, libby
" (I don't think I write in line for EP editor but so it goes. :) )"
As I've said before, You, Libby, are far too modest and self-effacing
As I've said before, You, Libby, are far too modest and self-effacing
My god girl u are confused. You demand what you want and call those who won't agree the "totalitarians."
Take a look at Frank Rich's piece now in New York Magazine. I realize you have no interest or understanding of politics, but it may have value for you so you can fake it in civilized society, and pretend you know how democracy works, not the ideological fantasy you have about it.
You aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem. Get off the high horse. The 60's are over.
Take a look at Frank Rich's piece now in New York Magazine. I realize you have no interest or understanding of politics, but it may have value for you so you can fake it in civilized society, and pretend you know how democracy works, not the ideological fantasy you have about it.
You aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem. Get off the high horse. The 60's are over.
yr not an ex-hippie. you're still a hippie. it's because of folks like you the right has won for most of your lifetime. the problem is, like so many others, unfortunately, you haven't made the effort to questions your assumptions and still walk around with a chip on your shoulder.
I bet I did more in those years than you ever thought of doing, but I figured out that by withholding ourselves from the political process AS IT IS rather than waiting for the messiah to come in the form of a politician is a childish way to think.
At this point, it's far too late. Most of you will go to the grave, despite all evidence, that you're bullying doesn't work, but you'll stay at it. It is a projection on your part. You've made a decision to live in a fantasy world, and rather than vote for the candidate most likely to move in your direction you will hold your breath and turn blue.
The hope is that the new generation won't take after you, but I fear the epidemic of cynicism begun in the 60's has now taken root in a way that can't be reversed.
I bet I did more in those years than you ever thought of doing, but I figured out that by withholding ourselves from the political process AS IT IS rather than waiting for the messiah to come in the form of a politician is a childish way to think.
At this point, it's far too late. Most of you will go to the grave, despite all evidence, that you're bullying doesn't work, but you'll stay at it. It is a projection on your part. You've made a decision to live in a fantasy world, and rather than vote for the candidate most likely to move in your direction you will hold your breath and turn blue.
The hope is that the new generation won't take after you, but I fear the epidemic of cynicism begun in the 60's has now taken root in a way that can't be reversed.
Ben, could you possibly be more arrogant, condescending and insulting? Love the line about you assuming you did more than I did in the hippie days ... quite the ego there. Even trying to be witheringly competitive about the past. You go on believing it is pragmatism you are so sophisticated and mature about. Keep on enabling the monstrous dismantling of this republic. Keep pretending the ostrich stance is sturdy and dignified. Keep throwing verbal rocks at the messengers. Keep on minimizing that which it is key the citizenry NOT minimize.
There is no doubt that ben COULD be more condescending - I've seen it on more than one occasion. Some people grow old gracefully. ben is NOT one of those. Probably admires frank for his fierce stand on whether cats should be leashed.
You know I am a fan of yours, Libby. I believe you are doing a wonderful job, and I admire your humanity and courage.
In the past 5 decades, every important legislation that passed benefited the big money; the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer come rain or shine.
The Wall Street bailout was used to pay salaries and bonuses to the big thieves and restore the banks' losses. The banks did not and are not giving out loans. Bush, Obama, and the Congress did that. Nothing ever did or will ever happen that will top that corruption. This is beyond fiction.
In fact, Obama was the last straw; he confirmed my cynicism. I was and still in awe of how helpless he is acting. Why do you think he did not fulfill any of his campaign promises? I know he is a slick politician from Chicago, but I do not think he is evil enough to cut social security and Medicare. He did and he will cut more.
I wish I could believe that the president or the congress have power...any power, except of course over the poor and the sick. I am sorry, but the evidence is so disappointing. I wish I am wrong. One thing I know, the people have the power to vote the corrupt out. Again, It is always a pleasure reading you. R
In the past 5 decades, every important legislation that passed benefited the big money; the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer come rain or shine.
The Wall Street bailout was used to pay salaries and bonuses to the big thieves and restore the banks' losses. The banks did not and are not giving out loans. Bush, Obama, and the Congress did that. Nothing ever did or will ever happen that will top that corruption. This is beyond fiction.
In fact, Obama was the last straw; he confirmed my cynicism. I was and still in awe of how helpless he is acting. Why do you think he did not fulfill any of his campaign promises? I know he is a slick politician from Chicago, but I do not think he is evil enough to cut social security and Medicare. He did and he will cut more.
I wish I could believe that the president or the congress have power...any power, except of course over the poor and the sick. I am sorry, but the evidence is so disappointing. I wish I am wrong. One thing I know, the people have the power to vote the corrupt out. Again, It is always a pleasure reading you. R
Thoth, you'll get no argument from me that Obama seems to have a dazzling personality. I am talking about character. It dumbfounds me that he is defended. I don't know honestly if he is an authoritarian or an authoritarian follower. Maybe the second turning into the first. I feel sorry for Obama. But I can't afford too much pity because he is so dangerous. Yes, you say, anyone in that situation being controlled by the corporate puppeteers, pimping for them would be helpless. But he chose to be their frontman and that was a proactive, well rewarded decision. And I say, to get on board to be pimped by them is a character flaw. Obama is certainly not alone with a character flaw, But he is the Character-Flawed-In-Chief. Even Obama said to make him do right we should put his feet to the fire. And yet, the fact that I have what I feel is a healthy anger at someone contributing as a significant catalyst in disasters happening to people in this country and out is not out of line.
I also feel awed that the entire Congress is lost to a group-think of corruption themselves.
It didn't happen overnight, Thoth. These people colluded and colluded and colluded and enabled and enabled the one percent and actually simply joined their gated community ignoring their oaths to the common good, the public trust. And the lobbyists insinuated themselves and the money into the Congress society and group think cronyism sold out the citizenry.
To say they don't have power? They had the power enough when they gave it away!
To say they can't get it back. Well, not the characterless ones representing us. But before we have no alternatives left, we should follow up with people of integrity like Jill Stein.
People who shrug and say grow up, corruption is all part of it. Go for the lesser evil on Team Dem. WTF??????
We have had so much evidence of betrayal of Obama and Congress and yet no one is squeezing the Dem Party to shape up. They are smugly certain, the Axelrods and Pelosis and all of them, the default vote will help Obama win in November since the Republicans as an alternative is no alternative, and the lefties ignored by them and media calling out for social justice can hold their noses and vote for Obama or stay home. They don't give a serious sh*t, since they can count on the sheeple.
Something is desperately wrong with the citizenry and its reps in this country. The people of conscience have got to get proactive and passionate.
Thanks as always for commenting.
Best, libby
I also feel awed that the entire Congress is lost to a group-think of corruption themselves.
It didn't happen overnight, Thoth. These people colluded and colluded and colluded and enabled and enabled the one percent and actually simply joined their gated community ignoring their oaths to the common good, the public trust. And the lobbyists insinuated themselves and the money into the Congress society and group think cronyism sold out the citizenry.
To say they don't have power? They had the power enough when they gave it away!
To say they can't get it back. Well, not the characterless ones representing us. But before we have no alternatives left, we should follow up with people of integrity like Jill Stein.
People who shrug and say grow up, corruption is all part of it. Go for the lesser evil on Team Dem. WTF??????
We have had so much evidence of betrayal of Obama and Congress and yet no one is squeezing the Dem Party to shape up. They are smugly certain, the Axelrods and Pelosis and all of them, the default vote will help Obama win in November since the Republicans as an alternative is no alternative, and the lefties ignored by them and media calling out for social justice can hold their noses and vote for Obama or stay home. They don't give a serious sh*t, since they can count on the sheeple.
Something is desperately wrong with the citizenry and its reps in this country. The people of conscience have got to get proactive and passionate.
Thanks as always for commenting.
Best, libby
I had to come back and read all the comments again Libby to see where the chips fell on this one...
Obama, first and foremost, is little more than a kind puppet face doing the bidding of his master while putting on a great show to his audience showing how much he 'cares' as he signs bill after bill cutting our supposed freedoms...
We are all at a very dangerous state here.
either we can turn on each other like dog packs taking sides or we can see the bigger picture.
Laying blame and personal attacks are little more than sidetracks leading to dead ends.
Alerting each and all to the REAL threats going on while mainstream media blurs the lines in giving out the latest over down crime spree or Hollywood/Disney scenario and distracting the masses is the bread/circus propaganda routine.
The threat is real. CIPSA has passed and been amended. Even with the threat of veto the dearth of bad news continues.
Carry on,,,,
Obama, first and foremost, is little more than a kind puppet face doing the bidding of his master while putting on a great show to his audience showing how much he 'cares' as he signs bill after bill cutting our supposed freedoms...
We are all at a very dangerous state here.
either we can turn on each other like dog packs taking sides or we can see the bigger picture.
Laying blame and personal attacks are little more than sidetracks leading to dead ends.
Alerting each and all to the REAL threats going on while mainstream media blurs the lines in giving out the latest over down crime spree or Hollywood/Disney scenario and distracting the masses is the bread/circus propaganda routine.
The threat is real. CIPSA has passed and been amended. Even with the threat of veto the dearth of bad news continues.
Carry on,,,,
The high profile "liberal" democrats are doing little if anything to object to this.
They said that it had to be Nixon that went to China to appease the right; they needed to appease the left on this or at least try so they picked Obama.
It is good to see that there are many more African Americans that see through this besides Tavis Smiley and Cornell West!
BTW thanks for the link they have other good stories worth checking out too.
They said that it had to be Nixon that went to China to appease the right; they needed to appease the left on this or at least try so they picked Obama.
It is good to see that there are many more African Americans that see through this besides Tavis Smiley and Cornell West!
BTW thanks for the link they have other good stories worth checking out too.
The arrogance is yours in thinking you can stamp your feet and make democracy something it is not. It is the result of faux liberals like yourself who defaulted from the political process since Viet Nam who have led to the domination of the right. You haven't learned from history and your self-righteousness has grown stale and tired.
The age of ideology that you represent is going to have to end if our form of government is going to continue. It's not personal, but I've gotten tired of having to cope with the sort of conditions your post makes clear, but I also understand if liberals had voted for the candidates most likely to represent them for the last 40ty years, we wouldn't be in the fix we are in. The place to start finger pointing is at yourself.
The age of ideology that you represent is going to have to end if our form of government is going to continue. It's not personal, but I've gotten tired of having to cope with the sort of conditions your post makes clear, but I also understand if liberals had voted for the candidates most likely to represent them for the last 40ty years, we wouldn't be in the fix we are in. The place to start finger pointing is at yourself.
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