In 2002 Jill Stein became the first gubernatorial candidate in Massachusetts history to endorse same-sex marriage. Stein pushed the other six candidates, all Democrats, to abandon their “civil-unions" position.
Stein’s stance and robust support from gay rights advocates and gay-friendly newspapers encouraged several other Democratic candidates to take the risk to support gay marriage, too.
Then, in 2004 the Massachusetts Supreme Court ruled marriage discrimination was unconstitutional according to the state constitution. What did the 85% Democratic state legislature do? It rallied to AMEND the state constitution so marriage discrimination would be constitutional. After all, their very own John Kerry was running for president as a civil-unions-only candidate. Might be awkward for him coming from a full out pro-gay state. Party cronyism over principles, after all.
Stein was leader of the Green Party in Massachusetts and pushed hard for marriage equality. She accused the civil-unions-only posturing Dems of reducing gay and lesbian couples to second-class citizenship.
When Kerry lost the presidency, the legislature’s anti-gay constitution-amending thankfully lost its momentum. After all, why gratuitously offend the gay constituency since Kerry had already lost? Pragmatic situational faux-ethics?
Of course Jill Stein has welcomed Obama’s recent statement in support of same-sex marriages.
“The long overdue statement by President Obama that he endorses same-sex marriage is indeed a milestone. In 2008, President Barack Obama went all over America saying that the civil unions were enough, and he saw nothing wrong in discrimination against same-sex couples. Whether it is called “evolution” or a political calculation, the change in the President’s position is a tribute to all the activists who have worked so hard for marriage equality. The steadily growing public support for marriage equality is convincing increasing numbers of politicians to rethink their positions.”
“I’m proud that I don’t have to change my position to match the polls. I have supported marriage equality since at least 2002, when I ran for governor. And I’m going to continue to work to eliminate this insidious form of discrimination. President Obama is still enforcing the Defense of Marriage Act - and that has to stop. And the President is saying that its acceptable for individual states to discriminate. I believe that when it comes to basic rights, it’s improper for a President to treat them as local options. The federal government is charged with defending the human rights of all people, no matter which state they live in.”
When Stein was compaigning in North Carolina she continually referenced her opposition to the anti-gay referendum on the upcoming ballot. Obama’s campaign talk while he was in North Carolina carefully omitted the anti-gay referendum. Stein's response to Obama's evasiveness:
“When it comes to human rights, it’s not acceptable to look the other way for political convenience. I’m glad that the Green Party and my campaign are able to speak up when the President is silent.”
Stein declared while campaigning in recent marriage equality Washington state:
“Now that seven states will have stopped discrimination against same-sex couples, it’s clear that equal marriage rights are here to stay. But it’s simply not acceptable that those married in one state are denied respect and equality when they cross state lines. We've been here before in the case of interracial marriages, and we decided the issue in favor of universal recognition of marriages regardless of where they were performed. We need to do the same with same-sex marriages.”
And this in North Carolina:
"When equal marriage rights came to Massachusetts, some people panicked, and said that it would destroy traditional marriage. I can definitively say now that all those fears proved to be unfounded. Marriage equality has enriched the lives of thousands of gay and lesbian couples and helped them realize their dreams. It hasn't hurt anyone. We are all better off for it. Discrimination against caring people is what we should be worrying about."
Obama communicated in his supposedly “watershed” stance that he still considers the marriage equality issue a matter of “states rights”. So what do we trust and where do we actually stand npw from this supposed breakthrough amidst the usual Obama fog of general vs. specific, talking the talk vs. walking the walk “truthiness”?
Stein celebrates the fact that Obama is not “looking away” from the gay marriage issue. But she, like so many of us sadder but wiser citizens, knows all too well the difference between opportunistic political pandering and honest commitment with follow through. Stein:
“... President Obama is still enforcing the Defense of Marriage Act - and that has to stop. And the President is saying that its acceptable for individual states to discriminate. I believe that when it comes to basic rights, it’s improper for a President to treat them as local options. The federal government is charged with defending the human rights of all people, no matter which state they live in.”
Dr. Stein on DOMA during her campaign visit to North Carolina:
“It’s also time for the President to stop enforcing the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) and bring a challenge to its constitutionality before the courts. DOMA is denying equality of federal benefits to legally married couples based on nothing more than their sex. The Obama Administration has admitted that DOMA is unconstitutional, but they are not acting as if they take that conclusion seriously. On a matter that does such harm to people, words without action are not enough.”
Words without action are not enough! Otherwise we are back to playing Lucy and the Football on this issue, too, with our campaign-mode President.
Dr. Stein is touring the nation promoting a Green New Deal, which includes: creating 25 million green jobs, ending unemployment, slowing climate change, bringing the troops home, downsizing the military, eliminating insurance waste through Medicare for All, having the rich pay their fair share, free public education (with money saved from new non-profiteering national health care), and forgiving student-loan debt (Stein: “an oppressive burden on an entire generation”).
Is Obama promoting any of these or is he using the gay rights focus to distract the citizens and media from the ever-escalating horrors of crony capitalism and US rogue militarism?
What is Jill Stein doing going on the record with such a clear, strong, sane, humane, pro-citizen social vision? No smoke and mirrors??? That is not the American political way.
I am sure such an agenda will set off the faux-progressive pragmatists insisting we REMAIN in the swampy quicksand of “lesser evilism.” I am sure the CORPORATE media will continue to ignore this DANGEROUS pro-citizen Dr. Stein who is promoting what someone named Abraham Lincoln once proposed, “a government of the people, by the people, for the people.”
As for Obama, I'll wait for him to actually walk the walk to a higher moral ground where Dr. Stein has been firmly standing since 2002 and before.
[cross-posted on correntewire and sacramento for democracy]
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"As for Obama, I'll wait for him to actually walk the walk ..."
Me too. Vote Green with a clear conscious and scare the hell out of people who are asleep.
Me too. Vote Green with a clear conscious and scare the hell out of people who are asleep.
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R...for more information. Thanks.
I firmly believe this is some strange kind of ploy on his part Libby.
I don't see it in his eyes. Something smells to me...
I don't see it in his eyes. Something smells to me...
Libby, I hope you have room here for me, a reluctant but determined lesser-evil voter. As I see it what we're facing is more a contest between aggressive evil and passive evil. The aggressive bastards would be perfectly happy shooting us all and letting gawd sort out the souls. Their thugs actually say as much. The passives are playing a more sophisticated game, pandering to a more sophisticated, albeit wimpy, demographic. We are, after all, a nation of morons and cowards. I'm not proud, but I refuse to pull the switch on my own execution.
Agree with CM. I am a supporter of Jill Stein because I want her campaign to grow and for people hear what she has to say. But I probably will not vote for her. If that's screwed up, so be it. I never claimed to be normal, just ordinary.
It's a pity that Jill and her campaign team aren't making more effective use of her Facebook page. This is one technique the NZ Green Party has been using when the media ignores us. I have two Facebook friends who are reposting her media releases on their own Facebook pages. This shows up under friends activity when I go to Jill's Facebook page. However no one (among my friends) has posted anything since March 15. I note she has a daily media release on her website. If someone on her campaign reposted these on her Facebook page, her Facebook friends could immediately re-broadcast them to their friends. Some people have hundreds and thousands of Facebook friends.
Lets keep discussing gay marriage. The Western World is teetering on the brink of economic collapse, America has become a full blown corporate fascist state under Obamas guidance but he can’t be all bad he wants Bob to marry Steve. Will Obama’s pet drones be invited to Bob and Steve's wedding? They love weddings.
jmac! thanks for your comment! The Green New Deal sounds really appealing to me compared to the horrifyingly "same old same old"! best, libby
Ande, most of the jill stein info stuff I get from the updates on her website, jillstein.org. They really do stay on top of timely stuff with her responses. Of course I put my own emotional edge on it you can be sure. best, libby
Mission, I am with you on probable gamesmanship about all of this. Joseph Kishore on wsws on the timing and the natue of this for political purposes:
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/may2012/marr-m11.shtml
"There was also an element of crass financial calculations in the decision to make the statement. On Wednesday, Obama sent out a message to supporters highlighting his new position on gay marriage and requesting donations. According to the Washington Post, the campaign received a “massive surge of contributions” in response.
"On Thursday evening, Obama was in Hollywood for a fundraiser at the home of actor George Clooney, expecting to net the campaign a record-setting $15 million in a single day.
"The Associated Press commented, “Hollywood is home to some of the most high-profile backers of gay marriage, and the 150 donors who are paying $40,000 to attend Clooney’s dinner Thursday night will no doubt feel newly invigorated by Obama’s watershed announcement the day before.” The AP added that over the course of a number of fundraisers in the next several days, gay marriage will be the dominant issue, “culminating in yet another fundraiser Monday in New York sponsored by gay and Latino Obama supporters.”
I have begun to think Obama does things at times in spite of the fact that they may also (sadly rarely) include morality and justice, not because they do.
best, libby
ps, like your new avatar
following fellow commenters ... getting pulled away but will return to continue commenting. thanks for your comments.
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/may2012/marr-m11.shtml
"There was also an element of crass financial calculations in the decision to make the statement. On Wednesday, Obama sent out a message to supporters highlighting his new position on gay marriage and requesting donations. According to the Washington Post, the campaign received a “massive surge of contributions” in response.
"On Thursday evening, Obama was in Hollywood for a fundraiser at the home of actor George Clooney, expecting to net the campaign a record-setting $15 million in a single day.
"The Associated Press commented, “Hollywood is home to some of the most high-profile backers of gay marriage, and the 150 donors who are paying $40,000 to attend Clooney’s dinner Thursday night will no doubt feel newly invigorated by Obama’s watershed announcement the day before.” The AP added that over the course of a number of fundraisers in the next several days, gay marriage will be the dominant issue, “culminating in yet another fundraiser Monday in New York sponsored by gay and Latino Obama supporters.”
I have begun to think Obama does things at times in spite of the fact that they may also (sadly rarely) include morality and justice, not because they do.
best, libby
ps, like your new avatar
following fellow commenters ... getting pulled away but will return to continue commenting. thanks for your comments.
Chicken maaan, of course I hear you!!! But I guess I reached a tipping point and don't see the line of lesser evil since Obama's anti-constitution behavior deserves calling out and even impeachment imho.
And this default positioning whereby the people to the left of Obama and the legacy Dems (to the left meaning people who are alarmed to lose our bill of rights ... is that really fringe thinking in people's estimations... HELLO?????) have no where to go and the corporate media helps invisibilize, marginalize and disenfranchise us is EVIL EVIL EVIL.
Jill Stein has answers, she has smarts, she has the empathy and sharp thinking of a leader from what I have seen of her and read of her.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. The corporate overlords rule both parties. It is a duopoly!!! Time to call them out instead of the pendulum swinging first to one and then the other party every four years and corporate and military oppression continuing and worsening no matter who is in office.
You know, when Nader was blamed re Gore election I didn't blame him. If Gore, even with Rove's horrifying shenanigans, couldn't get a landslide against the incompetent GWB (and I knew then the Dem party was pro-corporate but I didn't think it had jumped the shark so entirely as it has as evidence with the Obama totally pro-corporate administration belied by his generalized schmoozing) and the amoral GWB, then something was very rotten in the political realm and also within the citizenry, both. I wish Gore had won back then. Maybe it was the only way to stop the runaway train of greed and deregulation!
If you are too honest, empathetic, and constitutional to be let into the party, the party is captured. We are in Stockholm Syndrome if we are not bursting with outrage at what is going on imho. :) And shrugging it off as that's just how politics is is an insult to all the people who fought before us to further and protect the public trust and the common good that our oath taking pols don't even give lip service to any more.
thanks for commenting! best, libby
And this default positioning whereby the people to the left of Obama and the legacy Dems (to the left meaning people who are alarmed to lose our bill of rights ... is that really fringe thinking in people's estimations... HELLO?????) have no where to go and the corporate media helps invisibilize, marginalize and disenfranchise us is EVIL EVIL EVIL.
Jill Stein has answers, she has smarts, she has the empathy and sharp thinking of a leader from what I have seen of her and read of her.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. The corporate overlords rule both parties. It is a duopoly!!! Time to call them out instead of the pendulum swinging first to one and then the other party every four years and corporate and military oppression continuing and worsening no matter who is in office.
You know, when Nader was blamed re Gore election I didn't blame him. If Gore, even with Rove's horrifying shenanigans, couldn't get a landslide against the incompetent GWB (and I knew then the Dem party was pro-corporate but I didn't think it had jumped the shark so entirely as it has as evidence with the Obama totally pro-corporate administration belied by his generalized schmoozing) and the amoral GWB, then something was very rotten in the political realm and also within the citizenry, both. I wish Gore had won back then. Maybe it was the only way to stop the runaway train of greed and deregulation!
If you are too honest, empathetic, and constitutional to be let into the party, the party is captured. We are in Stockholm Syndrome if we are not bursting with outrage at what is going on imho. :) And shrugging it off as that's just how politics is is an insult to all the people who fought before us to further and protect the public trust and the common good that our oath taking pols don't even give lip service to any more.
thanks for commenting! best, libby
Joe, yes! The more Stein's policies gain traction the better it is for all of us. It is such a uphill climb and late in the game to mix metaphors! I do see if the Dems think they will get the vote ANYWAY from unhappy Dems and progressives they are going to keep pleasing the corporate overlords. It is ironic. On the teebee the pundits and even the pols talk about partisan bickering, but as I see it the wimpy Dems are not really fighting for integrity and calling out the corporations. Both the Repubs and Dems are doing their best to outdo each other in selling out the citizens. The Republicans are more arrogant. The Dems want it both ways, to convince everyone they are really trying hard but GEEE WHIZZZZ!! Obama's favorite game people play, "Look How Hard I Am Trying!" Not even close, Barack!
They Dems call out the Republicans like big team wrestlers call out each other, but the real people to call out are the corporate overlords and neither side will do that, neither will the media pundits.
So it is all illusion and lies lies lies. We have to call it as our consciences interpret it! best, libby
They Dems call out the Republicans like big team wrestlers call out each other, but the real people to call out are the corporate overlords and neither side will do that, neither will the media pundits.
So it is all illusion and lies lies lies. We have to call it as our consciences interpret it! best, libby
toritto, great share! thank you. a lot of uplifting personal reality! How great you got to the wedding and helped launch their new married life!!! The patience and earnestness of the activists and advocates is who deserves the credits. The politicans are always lightyears behind the reality and will to move backward not forward if it will be politically advantageous in the GAME, more is the pity and crazymkaing! best, libby
Stuart, I check Stein's media updates on jillstein.org and use the most timely and provocative to put into a blog here and two other places with some minimal or more than minimal commentary. I am not Facebook savvy but I hear what you are saying. The media updates are perfect lengths and well written with lots of juicy Jill quotes. Often counterpointing the underwhelming or downright outrageous choices of Obama, sometimes the looking the other way of Obama.
I will send your message to Ben, her assistant, whom I met when she came to NYC. He is up to his eyeballs in all that is to be done, assuredly, but you are right. Such an uphill battle, gotta fight not only harder but smarter. I was thinking of formulating an old fashion chain letter to ask people to pass it on via emails in promoting her. See how outdated I am as well! :) Thanks for your thoughts.
Best, libby
I will send your message to Ben, her assistant, whom I met when she came to NYC. He is up to his eyeballs in all that is to be done, assuredly, but you are right. Such an uphill battle, gotta fight not only harder but smarter. I was thinking of formulating an old fashion chain letter to ask people to pass it on via emails in promoting her. See how outdated I am as well! :) Thanks for your thoughts.
Best, libby
Jack, I was halfway through writing you a spirited comment and it got zapped into the ether. Thanks for the reality check! It seems shameless in terms of gamesmanship, to focus on and IMPLY to deliver gay marriage. Something that will gain Obama appreciation though the advocates earned it after so much hard fought battles and the evolution of conscience in the younger Americans re gay marriage at least.
But this should not distract from Obama's continuing impeachable offenses, like the assassinations, the dronings, the war mongering globally, the corporate enabling by pillaging the discretionary funding for safety net citizen security. Money that was earned by the taxpayer for his or her future. The politicians act like it is a giveaway of THEIR AND THE CORPORATISTS MONEY! What lowlifes.
We are a Stockholm Syndrome nation when it comes to identifying with the perpetrators and not rallying for morality. Remember the scene in a Few Good Men when Nicholson spews out YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!! Well, villainous Jack at least got that right!!!! Citizens can't apparently, so many of them. And the ones that are the 5 mega-conglomerates of the global media are gonna do all they can to discourage those of us who do get it and are not lost in the fog not to be acknowledged or encouraged. To make us feel like we are alone and we are not.
Obama is like the slot machines in Vegas, getting stingier and stingier (both!), but the few slots that surprise by finally being released keep people hoping that he will give even more.
Cronyism ... codependency ... is as much a villian as sociopathic power and control addiction. And the evil of the media that frames the citizenry consciousness for American exceptionalism and personality over principle with celeb style over substance evil pied pipers who hypnotize Americans to stay passive. Did you read or see Fahrenheit 451 with those wall screens that lied lied lied and seduced the watchers into giving up their critical thinking and their souls.
Appreciated your personification of Obama's pets, the drones!!!
Thanks for your comment and spirit!
best, libby
But this should not distract from Obama's continuing impeachable offenses, like the assassinations, the dronings, the war mongering globally, the corporate enabling by pillaging the discretionary funding for safety net citizen security. Money that was earned by the taxpayer for his or her future. The politicians act like it is a giveaway of THEIR AND THE CORPORATISTS MONEY! What lowlifes.
We are a Stockholm Syndrome nation when it comes to identifying with the perpetrators and not rallying for morality. Remember the scene in a Few Good Men when Nicholson spews out YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!! Well, villainous Jack at least got that right!!!! Citizens can't apparently, so many of them. And the ones that are the 5 mega-conglomerates of the global media are gonna do all they can to discourage those of us who do get it and are not lost in the fog not to be acknowledged or encouraged. To make us feel like we are alone and we are not.
Obama is like the slot machines in Vegas, getting stingier and stingier (both!), but the few slots that surprise by finally being released keep people hoping that he will give even more.
Cronyism ... codependency ... is as much a villian as sociopathic power and control addiction. And the evil of the media that frames the citizenry consciousness for American exceptionalism and personality over principle with celeb style over substance evil pied pipers who hypnotize Americans to stay passive. Did you read or see Fahrenheit 451 with those wall screens that lied lied lied and seduced the watchers into giving up their critical thinking and their souls.
Appreciated your personification of Obama's pets, the drones!!!
Thanks for your comment and spirit!
best, libby
Obama got one issue right after hedging and dodging; Stein didn't have to flip flop, as you say, and she addresses many other issues properly unlike the corporate candidates presented by the Mass Media.
In order for Mitt or Barack to have a chance the corporate media has to boycott all sincere candidates and crank up their propaganda machine full tilt since they aren't doing the will of the people and even then if the real grass roots efforts get out the word they might finally stop pulling this off every four years.
If sincere people don't try they won't succeed and they aren't all that sincere.
In order for Mitt or Barack to have a chance the corporate media has to boycott all sincere candidates and crank up their propaganda machine full tilt since they aren't doing the will of the people and even then if the real grass roots efforts get out the word they might finally stop pulling this off every four years.
If sincere people don't try they won't succeed and they aren't all that sincere.
I read this when it was posted, but have been pondering how to respond, meanwhile engaging with Kosher in a discussion about when or if it is EVIL for a congressman to accept a deal that compromises his integrity.
I’d be interested in your input-
http://open.salon.com/blog/koshersalaami/2012/05/12/the_gift
and
http://open.salon.com/blog/token/2012/05/13/authority_and_morality_ii
I’m for getting the state out of the marriage business entirely
But certainly if it remains involved in any way, all participants in such incorporations must be treated equally
The main civil “gift” of such an incorporation of individuals is a tax break, and the main benefit is the regularization of succesion of property, parental, and next of kin rights
Any competant attorney could draw up such a civil covenant between two ( or more) consenting adults, And the state would have one less area where it dictates our lives.
The fight over "Marriage" as a term is entirely because of the view that it is somehow “Sacred”
The State has no authority to give a blessing to or sanctify any endeavor.
I certainly applaud and agree with your position of equality of staus for loving spouses of any gender
But the proper place to be sanctified is the spiritual authority of your choice.
On a lighter note: it is only a matter of time until our kids ( and if I had any they would be in their 40’s)
Wonder what all the fuss was about.
Even after the Methodist council refused to accept homosexuality,
Our pastor presented a sermon for Mother’s day that spoke of blended families
He made reference that Moses had two mommies
Quite a few teachers in the audience got a chuckle
Those who would have been most offended
Didn’t get the reference
And nodded at the wisdom he expressed.
I’d be interested in your input-
http://open.salon.com/blog/koshersalaami/2012/05/12/the_gift
and
http://open.salon.com/blog/token/2012/05/13/authority_and_morality_ii
I’m for getting the state out of the marriage business entirely
But certainly if it remains involved in any way, all participants in such incorporations must be treated equally
The main civil “gift” of such an incorporation of individuals is a tax break, and the main benefit is the regularization of succesion of property, parental, and next of kin rights
Any competant attorney could draw up such a civil covenant between two ( or more) consenting adults, And the state would have one less area where it dictates our lives.
The fight over "Marriage" as a term is entirely because of the view that it is somehow “Sacred”
The State has no authority to give a blessing to or sanctify any endeavor.
I certainly applaud and agree with your position of equality of staus for loving spouses of any gender
But the proper place to be sanctified is the spiritual authority of your choice.
On a lighter note: it is only a matter of time until our kids ( and if I had any they would be in their 40’s)
Wonder what all the fuss was about.
Even after the Methodist council refused to accept homosexuality,
Our pastor presented a sermon for Mother’s day that spoke of blended families
He made reference that Moses had two mommies
Quite a few teachers in the audience got a chuckle
Those who would have been most offended
Didn’t get the reference
And nodded at the wisdom he expressed.
Just as with abortion rights, I find it beyond disturbing that this country’s politicians have somehow determined that it’s their job to officially approve or disapprove individual choices such as whom to marry.
Politicians have been granted far too much authority over our lives and when a “closet approver” such as Obama suddenly and conveniently close to election time semi- “comes out” in his typical rhetorical, non-committal fashion in support of same sex marriage, we clamber aboard the band wagon shouting; See! I told you so! Obama is a true progressive! And we do this as though we’re still children who have just won approval from mom and dad to date.
Isn’t it odd, that so many of our political pukes incessantly refer to the ancient civilizations as the beginning points of democracy, yet they can’t see beyond the Puritanistic and patently absurd notions of managing for us the most basic of human emotions – love.
I wonder how many of these “enlightened ones” have actually taken the time to discover the reality of the ancient civilizations to which they are so fond of connecting their democratic convictions. Wouldn’t they be surprised to discover the truths of the ancients such as: 500 years BCE, marriage in Greece was simply an institution established to provide a means of progeny. BUT! The preferred union was between an adult male and a young male; long before the Abrahamic religions appeared, marriage was simply a means to achieve political status, and here’s the real clincher: Not only was marriage not actively pursued in the early years of the Christian “Church,” the Church was adamantly opposed to marriage. Their thinking was that marriage interfered with seeking salvation, hence the common requirement of Catholic Priests to remain celibate; in 54 CE, Nero (the Roman Emperor in the 54 CE era) married not one, but two men; and a peasant dude by the name of Basil the First, now known as one of the greatest Byzantine rulers of all time married three times, all three to other men.
Wake up Obama! You and your political, bags of hammered shit for brains “terminators of choice” are not here to govern choice; never have been, never will be.
Perhaps; rather than progressing, we should do a little reverting and return to the peaceful matriarchal social standards of the ancestors of our politician’s favored enemy, the ancient Arabic civilizations.
In November; write in Inanna :- )
Politicians have been granted far too much authority over our lives and when a “closet approver” such as Obama suddenly and conveniently close to election time semi- “comes out” in his typical rhetorical, non-committal fashion in support of same sex marriage, we clamber aboard the band wagon shouting; See! I told you so! Obama is a true progressive! And we do this as though we’re still children who have just won approval from mom and dad to date.
Isn’t it odd, that so many of our political pukes incessantly refer to the ancient civilizations as the beginning points of democracy, yet they can’t see beyond the Puritanistic and patently absurd notions of managing for us the most basic of human emotions – love.
I wonder how many of these “enlightened ones” have actually taken the time to discover the reality of the ancient civilizations to which they are so fond of connecting their democratic convictions. Wouldn’t they be surprised to discover the truths of the ancients such as: 500 years BCE, marriage in Greece was simply an institution established to provide a means of progeny. BUT! The preferred union was between an adult male and a young male; long before the Abrahamic religions appeared, marriage was simply a means to achieve political status, and here’s the real clincher: Not only was marriage not actively pursued in the early years of the Christian “Church,” the Church was adamantly opposed to marriage. Their thinking was that marriage interfered with seeking salvation, hence the common requirement of Catholic Priests to remain celibate; in 54 CE, Nero (the Roman Emperor in the 54 CE era) married not one, but two men; and a peasant dude by the name of Basil the First, now known as one of the greatest Byzantine rulers of all time married three times, all three to other men.
Wake up Obama! You and your political, bags of hammered shit for brains “terminators of choice” are not here to govern choice; never have been, never will be.
Perhaps; rather than progressing, we should do a little reverting and return to the peaceful matriarchal social standards of the ancestors of our politician’s favored enemy, the ancient Arabic civilizations.
In November; write in Inanna :- )
I would vote for Jill Stein without hesitation if I thought she had a chance to win. I would seriously consider voting for her if polls showed Obama so far ahead of Romulus there was no chance of that corporate robot picking the next Supreme Court justices. Otherwise I will vote for Obama, but only to keep the robot from getting his hands on power and giving the high sign to the barbarians at the gate that they are free to enter, pillage, plunder and murder anyone in their way. I'm fully aware Obama has his barbarians, too, but I think the restraints on his are more secure.
Words without actions are not enough...nope. Not now. Not then. Not ever.
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